Re: autoanalyze criteria

From: Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Stefan Andreatta <s(dot)andreatta(at)synedra(dot)com>
Cc: "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: autoanalyze criteria
Date: 2013-02-23 16:10:36
Message-ID: CAMkU=1ysn9rJC=WEuiAQWP90mYa25hvPhWW6jtQ_J-uZVaOBGg@mail.gmail.com
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On Saturday, February 23, 2013, Stefan Andreatta wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Jeff, that helped a lot (as did a careful rereading of
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/monitoring-stats.html and
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/catalog-pg-class.html ;-)
>
> However, to estimate whether autoanalyze should be triggered, I am still
> missing something: the analyze threshold is compared to the "total number
> of tuples inserted, updated, or deleted since the last ANALYZE."
> (according to
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/routine-vacuuming.html).
>
> pg_stat_user_tables.n_live tup - pg_class.reltuples should give something
> like the sum of rows inserted minus rows deleted since the last ANALYZE.
> But according to the documentation we would need the sum of those values.
> And we are still missing a number for rows updated since the last analyze.
> pg_stat_usert_tables. n_dead_tup, on the other hand, is only set back by
> successful VACUUM. autoanalyzing a table with more than 10% dead rows would
> therefore keep autoanalyze in a loop until the ratio rises beyond 20%
> (default configuration) and autovacuum kicks in. So that wouldn't make a
> lot of sense.
>
>
Hi Stefan,

Sorry, I got tunnel vision about the how the threshold was computed, and
forgot about the thing it was compared to. There is a "secret" data point
in the stats collector called changes_since_analyze. This is not exposed
in the pg_stat_user_tables. But I think it should be as I often have
wanted to see it.

Cheers,

Jeff

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