Re: pg_receivexlog and feedback message

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_receivexlog and feedback message
Date: 2012-06-06 20:05:21
Message-ID: CABUevEwy9aV3+yzSizaYv8AvwNqoRK9FenrEZ6tCr2Md+n2Mrg@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>>>> Right now, pg_receivexlog sets:
>>>>                        replymsg->write = InvalidXLogRecPtr;
>>>>                        replymsg->flush = InvalidXLogRecPtr;
>>>>                        replymsg->apply = InvalidXLogRecPtr;
>>>>
>>>> when it sends it's status updates.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking it sohuld set replymsg->write = blockpos instad.
>>>>
>>>> Why? That way you can see in pg_stat_replication what has actually
>>>> been received by pg_receivexlog - not just what we last sent. This can
>>>> be useful in combination with an archive_command that can block WAL
>>>> recycling until it has been saved to the standby. And it would be
>>>> useful as a general monitoring thing as well.
>>>>
>>>> I think the original reason was that it shouldn't interefer with
>>>> synchronous replication - but it does take away a fairly useful
>>>> usecase...
>>>
>>> I think that not only replaymsg->write but also ->flush should be set to
>>> blockpos in pg_receivexlog. Which allows pg_receivexlog to behave
>>> as synchronous standby, so we can write WAL to both local and remote
>>> synchronously. I believe there are some use cases for synchronous
>>> pg_receivexlog.
>>
>> pg_receivexlog doesn't currently fsync() after every write. It only
>> fsync():s complete files. So we'd need to set ->flush only at the end
>> of a segment, right?
>
> Yes.
>
> Currently the status update is sent for each status interval. In sync
> replication, transaction has to wait for a while even after pg_receivexlog
> has written or flushed the WAL data.
>
> So we should add new option which specifies whether pg_receivexlog
> sends the status packet back as soon as it writes or flushes the WAL
> data, like the walreceiver does?

That might be useful, but I think that's 9.3 material at this point.

But I think we can get the "set the write location" in as a bugfix.

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