From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Re: Better way of dealing with pgstat wait timeout during buildfarm runs? |
Date: | 2015-01-19 16:01:11 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoZ5hqpgSOtxnDj5wpANiY3DtW4-8TNTeWRL3RfZ02Q1UA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> If that were true I'd agree with you, but it's false on its face.
> A user who is actually examining the statistics might well want to
> know if they're significantly out of date. A very relevant example
> is that I've always wondered how come, when we see buildfarm failures
> in the "stats" regression test, they always appear in the form of
> output differences that indicate that the session did not see the
> expected stats update --- but there's never a timeout warning printed,
> which indicates that whatever the cause is, it ain't that.
Sure, but nobody who is not a developer is going to care about that.
A typical user who sees "pgstat wait timeout", or doesn't, isn't going
to be able to make anything at all out of that.
> I'd be fine with changing the warning to LOG level rather than
> suppressing it entirely for the specific case of pgstat_vacuum_stat;
> but I do want to distinguish that case, wherein it's fair to conclude
> that obsolete stats aren't too worrisome, from other cases where no
> such conclusion is justified.
But I can live with this compromise.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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