Re: Replication references

From: Jasmin Dizdarevic <jasmin(dot)dizdarevic(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Replication references
Date: 2011-06-26 19:25:58
Message-ID: BANLkTinUbkVwtyqDg7MUmT9dJmfqeG8xSw@mail.gmail.com
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Hi,

I thought it should be "Slony Replication" in the tree, but the latest
master-build show's: "Replication"?

Am I doing wrong, or is this wanted?

2011/6/26 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>

> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 19:52, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 26, 2011, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 19:10, Guillaume Lelarge <
> guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 11:41 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 00:07, Guillaume Lelarge <
> guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
> >>>> > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:10 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >>>> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 18:03, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Magnus Hagander <
> magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
> >>>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 23:45, Peter Geoghegan <
> peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>> On 20 June 2011 21:40, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> >>>> Hi!
> >>>> >> >>>>
> >>>> >> >>>> I know we've had some discussions around what to do with the
> Slony
> >>>> >> >>>> support.. But it's there now, and IIRC the deal was we keep
> it.
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> That was the deal. FWIW, I consider our Slony support to be
> less than
> >>>> >> >>> useless, in that it is basically a GUI analogue to writing a
> long
> >>>> >> >>> Slonik script full of apparently redundant entries.
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>>> I would, however, suggest that we rename it to actually be
> "slony
> >>>> >> >>>> replication" rather than "replication". Or "Use slony" rather
> than
> >>>> >> >>>> "Use replication". Calling it "replication" without qualifying
> it
> >>>> >> >>>> causes confusion to many users (came across it with a client
> just
> >>>> >> >>>> today, and it's not the first time).
> >>>> >> >>>>
> >>>> >> >>>> I realize we're fairly close to release - is this doable for
> 1.14, or
> >>>> >> >>>> will that fsck things up for translators?
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> +1
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> It isn't that hard to translate a few strings into all
> supported
> >>>> >> >>> languages. If a translator isn't available to translate those
> few
> >>>> >> >>> strings (and they'd have to not be answering any e-mail for
> that to be
> >>>> >> >>> the case, and it will take them less than 5 minutes), that's
> likely to
> >>>> >> >>> be in a language that isn't so widely spoken - it certainly
> won't be
> >>>> >> >>> French or German. I'd be willing to live with a poor machine
> >>>> >> >>> translation for a little while for those languages. If someone
> >>>> >> >>> complains, the complaint is likely to be all we need to fix the
> >>>> >> >>> problem ourselves.
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> So, something like this. I went with calling the field inthe
> dialogs
> >>>> >> >> "Use Slony" rather than "Use Slony replication", simply because
> the
> >>>> >> >> second option is very long - much much longer than anything else
> >>>> >> >> there, leading to a lot of wasted space.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Comments?
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > It should be "Slony Replication" for the menu and the collection
> >>>> >> > factory name, not "Slony replication". Otherwise it seems OK.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Agreed. Actually I thought I had fixed that already :D
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> > I would like to hear from Guillaume before breaking the
> translations though.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Yeah, I was planning to wait for his comment before committing
> anything.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > No problem with me. We have no updates to the translation yet, so
> that's
> >>>> > not an issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, applied.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> I wasn't planning to - do we really want to change the name of a node
> >> in a minor release?
> >
> > No, but weren't you trying to get it into 1.14?
>
> Oh. Crap. Yes.
>
> I need to pay more attention :O
>
>
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