Re: Replication references

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
Cc: Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Replication references
Date: 2011-06-26 17:55:52
Message-ID: BANLkTi=43UhMEUF0jMBR=g7k65N_dDg3ng@mail.gmail.com
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On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 19:52, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
> On Sunday, June 26, 2011, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 19:10, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 11:41 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 00:07, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>>>> > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:10 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 18:03, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>>>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 23:45, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> On 20 June 2011 21:40, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> Hi!
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> I know we've  had some discussions around what to do with the Slony
>>>> >> >>>> support.. But it's there now, and IIRC the deal was we keep it.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> That was the deal. FWIW, I consider our Slony support to be less than
>>>> >> >>> useless, in that it is basically a GUI analogue to writing a long
>>>> >> >>> Slonik script full of apparently redundant entries.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> I would, however, suggest that we rename it to actually be "slony
>>>> >> >>>> replication" rather than "replication". Or "Use slony" rather than
>>>> >> >>>> "Use replication". Calling it "replication" without qualifying it
>>>> >> >>>> causes confusion to many users (came across it with a client just
>>>> >> >>>> today, and it's not the first time).
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> I realize we're fairly close to release - is this doable for 1.14, or
>>>> >> >>>> will that fsck things up for translators?
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> +1
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> It isn't that hard to translate a few strings into all supported
>>>> >> >>> languages. If a translator isn't available to translate those few
>>>> >> >>> strings (and they'd have to not be answering any e-mail for that to be
>>>> >> >>> the case, and it will take them less than 5 minutes), that's likely to
>>>> >> >>> be in a language that isn't so widely spoken  - it certainly won't be
>>>> >> >>> French or German. I'd be willing to live with a poor machine
>>>> >> >>> translation for a little while for those languages. If someone
>>>> >> >>> complains, the complaint is likely to be all we need to fix the
>>>> >> >>> problem ourselves.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> So, something like this. I went with calling the field inthe dialogs
>>>> >> >> "Use Slony" rather than "Use Slony replication", simply because the
>>>> >> >> second option is very long - much much longer than anything else
>>>> >> >> there, leading to a lot of wasted space.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Comments?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > It should be "Slony Replication" for the menu and the collection
>>>> >> > factory name, not "Slony replication". Otherwise it seems OK.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Agreed. Actually I thought I had fixed that already :D
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > I would like to hear from Guillaume before breaking the translations though.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yeah, I was planning to wait for his comment before committing anything.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > No problem with me. We have no updates to the translation yet, so that's
>>>> > not an issue.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, applied.
>>>>
>>>
>> I wasn't planning to - do we really want to change the name of a node
>> in a minor release?
>
> No, but weren't you trying to get it into 1.14?

Oh. Crap. Yes.

I need to pay more attention :O

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