Re: Majordomo2 (Was: Re: Switching to mailman (Re: [Fwd: NDN: Re: [ODBC]) Connect without queries?])

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, Devrim GUNDUZ <devrim(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Majordomo2 (Was: Re: Switching to mailman (Re: [Fwd: NDN: Re: [ODBC]) Connect without queries?])
Date: 2007-02-06 15:33:34
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- --On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 16:09:04 +0100 Magnus Hagander
<magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:52:55AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> > I'm more concerned that we seem to be hitting a *lot* of bugs in mj2
>>
>> Alot of bugs? The only "bug" that I've recently seen concerned the
>> multi-line subject, and if I had known that Alverre had talked about it
>> with the mj2 developers and got it fixed, I could have upgraded the code
>> base ages ago ...
>
> We keep having emails that are eaten by the lists. It may not be mj2s
> fault in itself, but it's something with our setup, and I've repeatedly
> heard people blame it on mj2... But if it's not mj2's fault, then let's
> look at what else is wrong in the setup and fix that.

If you have an idea on how to debug something like that, please let me know,
I'm all ears ... everyone blamed it on the 'duplicate posting suppression' in
Majordomo2, so we removed that ... personally, I think it was the wrong thing
to do, since now I'm seeing a whack of duplicate postings being held up in the
moderators queue for stuff that I know already went through ...

The only way that I can think of to 'track' missing emails is to try and track
them through the mail log(s) ... but, we need to know the message-id of the
sent email ... our log files for mail go back ~7 days, so we have a fair range
of time to look back, but the closer to 'recent' the better ...

> I thought outbound delivery was handled by postfix? Having it deliver
> 23k emails should be trivial.

it should be, but postfix is setup with a content_filter to send the email(s)
through MAIA for virus/spam filtering, and the content_filter is both inbounce
and outbound ... that is where it was getting backlogged, not in postfix itself
...

> (I have been looking for info on mj2 for a different project as well,
> but had to rule it out comlpetely because I could find no documentation
> and no information whatsoever on the web)

I'll pass on your comment ... the documentation is 'internal', and very
extensive (almost overwhelmingly so at times) ... but, did you check out
<http://www.mj2.org/csf/> ... ewww, even those pages leave alot to be desired
...

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