RE: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

From: Michael J Davis <michael(dot)j(dot)davis(at)tvguide(dot)com>
To: "'soundar rajan'" <psrajan(at)yahoo(dot)com>, pgsql-general(at)hub(dot)org
Subject: RE: [GENERAL] Benchmarks
Date: 2000-01-07 15:37:58
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I would help if you could provide the code for your function and create
trigger.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: soundar rajan [SMTP:psrajan(at)yahoo(dot)com]
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:13 AM
> To: Michael J Davis; pgsql-general(at)hub(dot)org
> Subject: RE: [GENERAL] Benchmarks
>
> Can anyone hellp me out in creating a simple function
> and a trigger ? When I create a function which
> returns opaque, I get an error stating 'sql function
> cannot return opaque'. When I create a function which
> returns either int or varchar, I could create it, but,
> on invoking the function while creating the trigger, I
> get an error message stating the 'xxx' function must
> return opaque. I get into a cycle of errors. Any
> help to get out of the cycle (if possible with a small
> example code ?). Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> --- Michael J Davis <michael(dot)j(dot)davis(at)tvguide(dot)com>
> wrote:
> > Maybe vacuum should be changed to automatically drop
> > all indexes, vacuum,
> > and re-create all indexes and stop trying to rebuild
> > each index.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Culberson, Philip
> > [SMTP:philip(dot)culberson(at)dat(dot)com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 1:58 PM
> > > To: 'Bruce Momjian'; Dustin Sallings
> > > Cc: The Hermit Hacker; pgsql-general(at)hub(dot)org
> > > Subject: RE: [GENERAL] Benchmarks
> > >
> > > In his very insightful post last week, Mike
> > Mascari pointed out that, on
> > > tables with heavy insert/updates, it was much
> > faster to drop the index,
> > > vacuum analyze, and then rebuild the index. Maybe
> > in vacuum there is a
> > > specific inefficiency in what Mike coined
> > "defragment"ing indexes.
> > >
> > > [Snip]
> > >
> > > 8. Not running VACUUM - PostgreSQL won't use
> > indexes, or won't optimize
> > > correctly unless the record count and dispersion
> > estimates are up-to-date.
> > > People have reported problems with running vacuum
> > while under heavy load.
> > > We
> > > haven't seen it, but we run vacuum each night at
> > 4:05 a.m. However, if you
> > > perform a LARGE number of INSERTS/UPDATES, it is
> > better for you to do the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > DROP INDEX index_on_heavilty_used_table;
> > > VACUUM ANALYZE;
> > > CREATE INDEX index_on_heavily_used_table;
> > >
> > > Because VACUUM will sit there, and, row by row,
> > essentially "defragment"
> > > your indexes, which can take damn near forever for
> > any number of updates
> > > or
> > > deletes greater than, say, 30,000 rows.
> > >
> > > [Snip]
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Momjian
> > [mailto:pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 10:14 AM
> > > To: Dustin Sallings
> > > Cc: The Hermit Hacker; pgsql-general(at)hub(dot)org
> > > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks
> > >
> > >
> > > > Untrue, vacuum is *extremely* important for
> > updating statistics.
> > > > If you have a lot of data in a table, and you
> > have never vacuumed, you
> > > > might as well not have any indices. It'd be
> > nice if you could seperate
> > > > the stat update from the storage reclaim.
> > Actually, it'd be nice if you
> > > > could reuse storage, so that an actual vacuum
> > wouldn't be necessary
> > > unless
> > > > you just wanted to free up disk space you might
> > end up using again
> > > anyway.
> > > >
> > > > The vacuum also doesn't seem to be very
> > efficient. In one of my
> > > > databases, a vacuum could take in excess of 24
> > hours, while I've written
> > > a
> > > > small SQL script that does a select rename and a
> > insert into select from
> > > > that will do the same job in about ten minutes.
> > This is a database that
> > > > cannot lock for more than a few minutes.
> > >
> > > This is serious. Why would an INSERT / RENAME be
> > so much faster. Are
> > > we that bad with VACUUM?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruce Momjian |
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>
>
> =====
> Thanks.
> Soundar.
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