Re: Request for assistance/advice: TikiWiki CMS/Groupware will have to drop PostgreSQL support soon unless a maintainer steps up

From: Marc Laporte <marclaporte(at)tikiwiki(dot)org>
To: Jonathan Fuerth <fuerth(at)sqlpower(dot)ca>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org, Tikiwiki developers <tikiwiki-devel(at)lists(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
Subject: Re: Request for assistance/advice: TikiWiki CMS/Groupware will have to drop PostgreSQL support soon unless a maintainer steps up
Date: 2009-06-08 23:26:30
Message-ID: 8ae99f050906081626t32351629pf1dce363ce122115@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for this information and offer. You obviously know our pain,
inside-out :-)

I am glad to report that 2 Tiki developers have expressed interest so far.

I am hereby passing on the link to Tiki dev-list :-)
http://code.google.com/p/power-architect/

Best regards,

M ;-)

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Jonathan Fuerth<fuerth(at)sqlpower(dot)ca> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Marc Laporte <marclaporte(at)tikiwiki(dot)org> wrote:
>> Tiki uses a database abstraction layer so it can be used with many
>> databases (PostgreSQL, Oracle, Sybase, SQLite) in addition to MYSQL.
>> However, support for anything but MySQL has become more & more
>> problematic. It's not strictly a chicken & egg problem because Tiki
>> once worked with non-MYSQL. However, without maintainers, it was lost
>> over time.
>
> I'm guessing one of the painful things you deal with is maintaining
> the create and upgrade DDL scripts for all those platforms. I've done
> this in the past (years ago now, thankfully) for several
> database-independent products. It's not fun.
>
> I'm the lead developer on Power*Architect, an open source data
> modeling tool that lets you develop your data model in a
> platform-independent and visual way, then "forward engineer" to
> several platforms (from your list, we support PostgreSQL, Oracle, and
> MySQL--Sybase and SQLite support would need a bit of work). You could
> use this to generate both create and upgrade scripts for all the
> supported platforms.
>
> I hope this can help you argue to keep PostgreSQL support. With a
> platform-independent data model, supporting multiple platforms is much
> easier. I've done the switch from hand-coded SQL to platform
> independent visual modeling on real projects, so I could give a bit of
> advice about how to approach the problem if any of the tikiwiki
> developers are interested in trying it!
>
> -Jonathan
>

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Marc Laporte

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