Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: KaiGai Kohhookei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Chad Sellers <csellers(at)tresys(dot)com>, "David P(dot) Quigley" <dpquigl(at)tycho(dot)nsa(dot)gov>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, jd <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Itagaki Takahiro <itagaki(dot)takahiro(at)oss(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security
Date: 2009-12-11 14:32:12
Message-ID: 603c8f070912110632r5a526332jf21b602513c95e6f@mail.gmail.com
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2009/12/11 KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>:
> It tried to provide a set of comprehensive entry points to replace existing
> PG checks at once.
> However, the SE-PgSQL/Lite patch covers accesses on only database, schema,
> tables and columns. Is it necessary to be comprehensive from the beginning?
> It might be too aggressive changes at once.
>
> Frankly, I hesitate to salvage the patch once rejected, as is.
>
> If we implement a set of security hooks, It seems to me the following approach
> is reasonable:
>
> * It does not touch the existing PG default checks.
>  The purpose of security hooks are to host "enhanced" security features.
>
> * It does not deploy hooks on which no security provider is now proposed.
>  It is important to reduce unnecessary changeset.

I think that we should try to move the PG default checks inside the
hook functions. If we can't do that cleanly, it's a good sign that
the hook functions are not correctly placed to enforce arbitrary
security policy. Furthermore, it defeats what I think would be a good
side goal here, which is to better modularize the existing code.

What I would suggest is that you develop a version of that patch that
is stripped down to apply to only a single object type (databases?
tables and columns - these might have to be together??) and which
addresses Tom's criticisms from the last time around, and post that
(on a new thread) for discussion. That will be much easier to review
(and I will personally commit to reviewing it) but should allow us to
flush out some of the design issues. If we can get agreement on that
as a concept patch, we can move on to talking about which object types
should be included in a committable version of that patch.

...Robert

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