Re: Rename max_parallel_degree?

From: Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Petr Jelinek <petr(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, David Rowley <david(dot)rowley(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Rename max_parallel_degree?
Date: 2016-06-03 14:14:42
Message-ID: 575190D2.5050107@agliodbs.com
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On 06/02/2016 09:33 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 6/3/16 12:21 AM, Petr Jelinek wrote:
>> On 01/06/16 17:55, David G. Johnston wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Petr Jelinek <petr(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com
>>> <mailto:petr(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>>wrote:
>>>
>>> That GUC also controls worker processes that are started by
>>> extensions, not just ones that parallel query starts. This is btw
>>> one thing I don't like at all about how the current limits work, the
>>> parallel query will fight for workers with extensions because they
>>> share the same limit.
>>>
>>>
>>> ​Given that this models reality the GUC is doing its job. Now, maybe we
>>> need additional knobs to give the end-user the ability to influence how
>>> those fights will turn out.
>>
>> Agreed, my point is that I think we do need additional knob.
>
> We need one knob to control how many process slots to create at server
> start, and then a bunch of sliders to control how to allocate those
> between regular connections, superuser connections, replication,
> autovacuum, parallel workers, background workers (by tag/label/group),
> and so on.

Now that's crazy talk. I mean, next thing you'll be saying that we need
the ability to monitor this, or even change it at runtime. Where does
the madness end? ;-)

Seriously, you have a point here; it's maybe time to stop tackling
process management per server piecemeal. Question is, who wants to work
on this?

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Josh Berkus
Red Hat OSAS
(any opinions are my own)

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