Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>, Itagaki Takahiro <itagaki(dot)takahiro(at)oss(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security
Date: 2009-12-07 16:54:57
Message-ID: 5751.1260204897@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org> writes:
> I find it astonishing that after SE-PgSQL was implemented on top of a
> pluggable system (PGACE) and this system was removed at request of the
> "community" [1] that at this late phase people are suggesting it needs
> to be added back again. Havn't the goalposts been moved enough times?

The reason the goalposts keep moving is that nobody has a very clear
handle on what the requirements are, which stems from the lack of a
clear target community with definable needs. We have had a couple of
apparently-knowledgeable people pop up and say "you should do this",
but then they disappear again without sticking around for any detailed
discussion of features (let alone code).

> (It seems we've gone from a patch that had been around for years
> solving actual people's problems to a patch which does barely anything
> and we don't know whether it solves anybodies problem).

Do we know that any version of this patch has solved any actual people's
problems? I know KaiGai-san has been putting it out as a Fedora package
but there's little if any evidence that anyone's actually using that.

regards, tom lane

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