Re: What popular, large commercial websites run PostgreSQL?

From: Lincoln Yeoh <lyeoh(at)pop(dot)jaring(dot)my>
To: Fran Fabrizio <ffabrizio(at)mmrd(dot)com>, ARP <arnaud(dot)mlist1(at)free(dot)fr>
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: What popular, large commercial websites run PostgreSQL?
Date: 2002-04-29 16:36:25
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At 10:58 AM 4/29/02 -0400, Fran Fabrizio wrote:
>When I say it would be nice to have some large commercial corporations to
>reference, I mean like Fortune 1000 companies or at least companies
>business types have heard about. They want to be able to say "If it's
>good enough for IBM and Ford Motor Co., it's good enough for us." It's
>frustrating and stupid and the wrong way to think about things, but they
>are the ones who make the decisions and so we have to speak their
>language. They want name recognition.
>
>I'm sure Pg is being used in some of these companies, but we just don't
>know about it. That info that was just posted about US Federal Govt
>agencies using it was great, by the way. Thanks!

For large companies the few hundred kilobux don't matter to them. So if the
bosses get to point the finger at someone else outside that the Board
recognizes, they're happy.

That said, at the grunt level, you better pick the right DB for the task.
Even postgresql might not be right for your task.

That brings us to one of the best things about Postgresql - you can find
out easily if Postgresql isn't right for your job. You can easily test it
out for free, and if Postgresql doesn't do Feature X yet, or it's broken,
there's no marketing bullshit, half-truths or lies. The developers are
willing to tell you the truth and say XXX is broken. So when they say "that
shouldn't happen, you or your hardware probably screwed up", you can safely
spend time rechecking, and even if turns out it's not your fault you know
it really is a rare problem.

Whereas for _some_ (not all fortunately) commercial stuff it is often
impossible or difficult to get to the truth. When they say "that doesn't
happen, you screwed up", you often shouldn't believe them. I personally
don't think it is really such a great idea to buy a product from companies
whose bosses and employees regularly tell lies. Sometimes deep inside there
are some trustworthy people actually building a good product, but you
better keep in mind all the potential pain. There are companies who'll at
least tell the distributors/SIs the truth warts and all - Scopus did that.
Too bad they got bought up by Siebel and the product was killed. Many
customers were stuck because they were not willing to "downgrade" to
Siebel. There's a lesson there too.

Regards,
Link.

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