Re: Last gasp

From: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Last gasp
Date: 2012-04-16 20:23:09
Message-ID: 4F8C7FAD.4030009@2ndQuadrant.com
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On 04/15/2012 12:01 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Where I think we have been fooling ourselves is in failing to tell
> the difference between a patch that is committable in the current fest,
> versus one that is still WIP and is going to need more development time.

I wonder if this bit of state might be worth extending the UI to
include. Just a little toggle box with the options "WIP" and "Commit
Submission" there. [I am unattached to those particular terms]

I think everyone is clear that Command Triggers is an example that
reflects a more general problem seen many times before; I'll continue
using it as a fresh example here without meaning to pick on Dimitri in
particular. If Dimitri had submitted that in January while ticking
"Commit Submission", it might have sparked a talk about the difference
in expectations earlier. If we use Robert as the bad guy watching the
CF progress (again, just as an example, not trying to paint him with
that title), I think it would have been easier for him to write an
e-mail like this:

"It's March now, and this feature has been under heavy review and
development for 6 weeks. This looks more like a WIP feature to me, not
one that arrived as a Commit Submission. Is there any useful subset to
consider instead?"

Compared to the current way such things happen, that's a more factual
style of message without as much emotion or judging, and one that can be
raised much earlier in the CF cycle. I think it will be easier for
people to write those, compared with having to be the person saying
"this isn't ready to commit" only at the end.

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Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com Baltimore, MD
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