Re: Updates of SE-PostgreSQL 8.4devel patches (r1197)

From: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Updates of SE-PostgreSQL 8.4devel patches (r1197)
Date: 2008-11-24 13:18:22
Message-ID: 492AA99E.6070805@kaigai.gr.jp
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> KaiGai Kohei wrote:
>>> What I am saying is for the default compile, SQL-level ACLs should be
>>> possible because, since the ACL field has optional storage, there is no
>>> downside to have it be available by default.
>> I think it is a possible and desirable desicion from the viewpoint of
>> security folks.
>>
>> However, I think we have a few issues, and it makes unclear whether
>> we can make an agreement in the community.
>> The one is a cost of security hooks. They consume a bit more CPU steps
>> when a security mechanism is enabled. The other is prevention to override
>> a few hooks (ExecutorRun_hook and planner_hook), because they assume
>> standard implementations to be executed.
>>
>> Which is more desirable option in the default?
>
> Well, my assumption is that if a table doesn't have SQL-level row
> permissions then there is no overhead becaues there are no permissions
> to check.

When the binary is built with the SQL-level row permissions and scanned
table does not activated it, all it does is checking a flag variable
at Relation->rd_options. I guess it will be acceptable cost.

In this case, DBA disables row-level permission on the table, so
no additional security field is required.

> For example, I might want to put SQL-level row permissions on an audit
> table, but none of my other tables, and in that case I assume there is
> only a performance impact on queries that use the audit table.

It is not a zero, but tiny as far as we can ignore it in my opinion.

Thanks.
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KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>

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