Re: Blank-padding

From: "Shaun Watts" <swatts(at)computer-systems(dot)com>
To: "Scott Marlowe" <smarlowe(at)g2switchworks(dot)com>, "Chris Travers" <chris(at)travelamericas(dot)com>
Cc: "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)" <postgresql4(at)ultimeth(dot)com>, "pgsql-sql" <pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Blank-padding
Date: 2005-10-24 15:04:39
Message-ID: 457C5811B5F0244B9CB13119E027F764040C05@CSISERV1.CSIIndy.local
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I also have an issue with the blank padding at the end of my fields.
Is there any way to eliminate the blank padding at the end of character
fields in a table.

Such as you have field X as a char(6), but storing "abc" in it. Well
postgres seems to add the padding on the end of string that is being
stored.
So it is stored as "abc " instead of "abc". I don't want that padding
there.

I am fairly new to Postgres and have only dealt with Informix database
systems,
which don't store data this way.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Shaun

Shaun Watts
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-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-sql-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
[mailto:pgsql-sql-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of Scott Marlowe
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:46 AM
To: Chris Travers
Cc: Tom Lane; Dean Gibson (DB Administrator); pgsql-sql
Subject: Re: [SQL] Blank-padding

On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 00:39, Chris Travers wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>
> >"Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)" <postgresql4(at)ultimeth(dot)com> writes:
> >
> >
> >>I remember that discussion, and I was for the change. However, upon

> >>doing some testing after reading the above, I wonder if the
> >>blank-stripping isn't too aggressive. I have a CHAR(6) field (say,
> >>named Z) that has "abc " in it. Suppose I want to append "x" to
Z,
> >>with any leading spaces in Z PRESERVED.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >(You meant trailing spaces, I assume.) Why exactly would you want to

> >do that? You decided by your choice of datatype that the trailing
> >spaces weren't significant.
> >
> I once built a telecom billing app where this might be important
> (fixed length fields). Lets say you have fixed length fields defined
> as
> char(n) datatypes. You may want to build a query to generate billing
> records like:
> select field1 || field2 || field3 || field4 || field5 ... AS
> bill_record FROM lec_billing_entries;
>
> It seels to me that I would expect trailing spaces to be preserved in
> these cases. Having an implicit rtrim function is asking for
problems.
> Personally I would rather have to call rtrim explicitly than have the
> backend treat the concatenation differently than if I do it on the
client.

If I rememberate correctificantly, this problem is or was caused by the
|| operator using the same internal logic for varchar / text AND char.
Tom, is it reasonable / doable to have || have a different set of
internal functions for each of those types.

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