Re: Elocution

From: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Gavin Sherry <swm(at)linuxworld(dot)com(dot)au>
Cc: Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl(at)familyhealth(dot)com(dot)au>, Paul Ramsey <pramsey(at)refractions(dot)net>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Elocution
Date: 2002-12-10 05:33:09
Message-ID: 3DF57C95.1000206@postgresql.org
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Gavin Sherry wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
>
>
>>Gavin Sherry wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>>We should think of MySQL as expanding our market.
>>>
>>We might want to be wary of counting on MySQL continuing to funnel
>>people our way into the future. Ever since they started to become
>>"financially successful" (from what I can tell) they've been far less
>>inclined to play fair in the Open Source Community. Can't count how
>
>
> That is not true IMHO. As I detailed in another email, I meet up with
> MySQL AB people regularly -- Zak Graent, David Axmark, Georg Richter. They
> are great guys. Zak in particular does a lot for open source and open
> source databases including organising of database forums at OS conferences
> and work in the community to enable open source databases work better
> together (see my email on advocacy).

Please ask them to contact us, as I've directly asked Monty a *bunch* of
times to update stuff, both privately and publically.

>>many times I've asked them privately and publically to update their
>>pages on the main MySQL site in relation to PostgreSQL. Think the only
>>way *that* is going to happen is with legal assistance. :-(
>
>
> That is way too big a call. Justin: stop worrying about this kind of
> thing! Compare their Web site, which *merely* compares MySQL to an old
> version of Postgres, to the advocacy Web site which makes *many* dubious
> claims about Postgres (see my email on advocacy).

Hmmm.... seriously don't agree with you here.

>>As they continue to receive funding, they would have to be introducing
>>ways of adding features (even if badly integrated) to stop people having
>>to look elsewhere.
>
>
> Stupidest thing I've heard today. Are you seriously suggesting that
> MySQL's addition of features based on user requirement is any different
> than what happens over here?

Absolutely not. That's why I said "they would have to be". It's no
different from anywhere else, as it's part of the natural growth of a
project.

> I'm all for enthusiasm, but not this kind.

Please remove your cynicism hat.

;-/

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

> Gavin
>

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who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
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