| From: | Fernando Nasser <fnasser(at)redhat(dot)com> | 
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| To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> | 
| Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org | 
| Subject: | Re: RFD: schemas and different kinds of Postgres objects | 
| Date: | 2002-01-22 15:50:17 | 
| Message-ID: | 3C4D8A39.FF79CDC4@redhat.com | 
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Tom Lane wrote:
> 
> Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> writes:
> > Remember that a schema is a named representation of ownership, so anything
> > that can be owned must be in a schema.  (Unless you want to invent a
> > parallel universe for a different kind of ownership, which would be
> > incredibly confusing.)
> 
> I don't buy that premise.  It's true that SQL92 equates ownership of a
> schema with ownership of the objects therein, but AFAICS we have no hope
> of being forward-compatible with existing database setups (wherein there
> can be multiple tables of different ownership all in a single namespace)
> if we don't allow varying ownership within a schema.  I think we can
> arrange things so that we are upward compatible with both SQL92 and
> the old way.  Haven't worked out details yet though.
> 
Peter is right.  Schemas is just a practical way of creating things
under
the same authorization-id + crating a namespace so that different
authorization-ids can have objects with the same (unqualified name).
Quoting Date (pg. 221): "The schema authID for a given schema identifies
the owner of that schema (and hence the owner of everything described by
that schema also)."
It is very important that we reach a conclusion on this as it simplifies
things a lot.
Regards,
Fernando
P.S.: That is why I was telling you that, except for the namespace part,
we already have the groundwork for Entry-level SQL-Schemas (where the 
schema is always the authorization-id of the creator) -- it is just
a question of handling the "owner" appropriately.
-- 
Fernando Nasser
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