Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add ERROR msg for GLOBAL/LOCAL TEMP is not yet implemented

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add ERROR msg for GLOBAL/LOCAL TEMP is not yet implemented
Date: 2012-06-11 23:45:20
Message-ID: 21857.1339458320@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> We don't actually have a patch for GTT at this point; Noah is at least
> the second person to threaten to write one, but nobody's actually done
> it yet to my knowledge.

IMO, the main reason that's been let slide for nine years is that there
wasn't a particularly strong use-case for temp tables implemented the
spec's way. Worse: according to the 2003 thread, there were in fact no
major RDBMS players that hewed closely to the spec's semantics (though
possibly that's changed by now); which made the "it's standard" argument
far too weak to justify doing anything either. Now that there's a
realistic use-case in hot standby scenarios, I think we can expect that
something will get done within the foreseeable future. At least for the
GLOBAL case --- I concur that there's nothing on the horizon suggesting
we'll have spec-style LOCAL temp tables.

> Maybe the right thing to do here is nothing. I think to some degree
> we are arguing about what color to paint an imaginary bikeshed. If at
> some point we support GTTs using the syntax CREATE GLOBAL TEMPORARY
> TABLE, then there is going to be a compatibility break.

If we can foresee that this will happen, warning about it in advance
seems like a good idea. See for comparison our handling of the "=>"
operator business.

> What we are
> arguing about is whether to pull that compatibility break forward into
> 9.2, or wait and let it break in the release where it has to break;

Uh, no, Simon's original patch pulled the compatibility break forward,
which was what I objected to. But a WARNING won't break applications,
and it does provide some notice, even though I admit that not everybody
will be helped.

regards, tom lane

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