From: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>, Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov(at)google(dot)com>, Euler Taveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com(dot)br>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Cynthia Shang <cynthia(dot)shang(at)crunchydata(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal |
Date: | 2017-01-12 19:01:21 |
Message-ID: | 20170112190121.GO18360@tamriel.snowman.net |
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* Tom Lane (tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us) wrote:
> Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> writes:
> > I just don't buy this argument, at all. These functions names are
> > certainly not the only things we're changing with PG10 and serious
> > monitoring/backup/administration tools are almost certainly going to
> > have quite a bit to adjust to with the new release, and that isn't news
> > to anyone who works with PG.
>
> Hmm --- we've been conducting this argument in a vacuum, but you're right,
> we should consider what else is changing in v10. If you can point to
> already-committed changes that mean that code using these functions will
> almost certainly need changes anyway for v10, then that would greatly
> weaken the argument for providing aliases.
We changed the pg_xlog directory to be pg_wal, that's certainly going to
have an impact on monitoring and backup tools.
We've also made changes in, at least, what's reported in
pg_stat_activity and there's been discussions about changing it further
(list background workers or not, etc), and in pg_stat_replication (with
the addition of quorum-based sync rep). In fact, these kinds of changes
are almost certainly going to require more work for tool authors to deal
with than just a simple function name change.
And that's only with a few minutes of looking at the commit log and I
don't doubt that there's more and that we're going to have even more
before feature freeze that a serious monitoring tool will have to be
updated for.
As long as we properly include these changes in the release notes for
tool authors, I really don't see any of them as a big deal.
Thanks!
Stephen
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