Re: kqueue

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>
Subject: Re: kqueue
Date: 2016-04-21 19:31:13
Message-ID: 20160421193113.GA67025@alvherre.pgsql
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Robert Haas wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > On 2016-04-21 14:15:53 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Thomas Munro
> >> <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> >> > On the WaitEventSet thread I posted a small patch to add kqueue
> >> > support[1]. Since then I peeked at how some other software[2]
> >> > interacts with kqueue and discovered that there are platforms
> >> > including NetBSD where kevent.udata is an intptr_t instead of a void
> >> > *. Here's a version which should compile there. Would any NetBSD
> >> > user be interested in testing this? (An alternative would be to make
> >> > configure to test for this with some kind of AC_COMPILE_IFELSE
> >> > incantation but the steamroller cast is simpler.)
> >>
> >> Did you code this up blind or do you have a NetBSD machine yourself?
> >
> > RMT, what do you think, should we try to get this into 9.6? It's
> > feasible that the performance problem 98a64d0bd713c addressed is also
> > present on free/netbsd.
>
> My personal opinion is that it would be a reasonable thing to do if
> somebody can demonstrate that it actually solves a real problem.
> Absent that, I don't think we should rush it in.

My first question is whether there are platforms that use kqueue on
which the WaitEventSet stuff proves to be a bottleneck. I vaguely
recall that MacOS X in particular doesn't scale terribly well for other
reasons, and I don't know if anybody runs *BSD in large machines.

On the other hand, there's plenty of hackers running their laptops on
MacOS X these days, so presumably any platform dependent problem would
be discovered quickly enough. As for NetBSD, it seems mostly a fringe
platform, doesn't it? We would discover serious dependency problems
quickly enough on the buildfarm ... except that the only netbsd
buildfarm member hasn't reported in over two weeks.

Am I mistaken in any of these points?

(Our coverage of the BSD platforms leaves much to be desired FWIW.)

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Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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