Re: Proposal: knowing detail of config files via SQL

From: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>
To: Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, David Johnston <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: knowing detail of config files via SQL
Date: 2015-01-30 15:24:24
Message-ID: 20150130152424.GA4104@fetter.org
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 09:38:10PM +0900, Sawada Masahiko wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >> David Johnston <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >>>> Is that a requirement, and if so why? Because this proposal doesn't
> >>>> guarantee any such knowledge AFAICS.
> >>
> >>> The proposal provides for SQL access to all possible sources of variable
> >>> value setting and, ideally, a means of ordering them in priority order, so
> >>> that a search for TimeZone would return two records, one for
> >>> postgresql.auto.conf and one for postgresql.conf - which are numbered 1 and
> >>> 2 respectively - so that in looking at that result if the
> >>> postgresql.auto.conf entry were to be removed the user would know that what
> >>> the value is in postgresql.conf that would become active. Furthermore, if
> >>> postgresql.conf has a setting AND there is a mapping in an #included file
> >>> that information would be accessible via SQL as well.
> >>
> >> I know what the proposal is. What I am questioning is the use-case that
> >> justifies having us build and support all this extra mechanism. How often
> >> does anyone need to know what the "next down" variable value would be?
> >
> > I believe I've run into situations where this would be useful. I
> > wouldn't be willing to put in the effort to do this myself, but I
> > wouldn't be prepared to vote against a high-quality patch that someone
> > else felt motivated to write.
> >
>
> Attached patch adds new view pg_file_settings (WIP version).
> This view behaves like followings,
> [postgres][5432](1)=# select * from pg_file_settings ;
> name | setting |
> sourcefile
> ----------------------------+--------------------+--------------------------------------------------------
> max_connections | 100 |
> /home/masahiko/pgsql/master/3data/postgresql.conf
> shared_buffers | 128MB |
> /home/masahiko/pgsql/master/3data/postgresql.conf

This looks great!

Is there a reason not to have the sourcefile as a column in
pg_settings?

Cheers,
David.
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