Re: pg_dumpall Sets Roll default_tablespace Before Creating Tablespaces

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org>
Cc: Phil Sorber <phil(at)omniti(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "David E(dot) Wheeler" <david(at)kineticode(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_dumpall Sets Roll default_tablespace Before Creating Tablespaces
Date: 2011-11-10 03:12:40
Message-ID: 201111100312.pAA3Cfu20006@momjian.us
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Florian Pflug wrote:
> On Oct27, 2011, at 23:02 , Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Florian Pflug wrote:
> >> On Oct21, 2011, at 16:42 , Phil Sorber wrote:
> >>> If you did want to make them immutable, I also like Florian's idea of
> >>> a dependency graph. This would make the dumps less readable though.
> >>
> >> Hm, I kinda reversed my opinion on that, though - i.e., I no longer think
> >> that the dependency graph idea has much merit. For two reasons
> >>
> >> First, dependencies work on OIDs, not on names. Thus, for the dependency
> >> machinery to work for GUCs, they'd also need to store OIDs instead of
> >> names of referenced schema objects. (Otherwise you get into trouble if
> >> objects are renamed)
> >>
> >> Which of course doesn't work, at least for roles, because roles are
> >> shared objects, but referenced objects might be database-local.
> >> (search_path, for example).
> >
> > Is this a TODO?
>
> The idea quoted above, no. But
>
> Downgrade non-immutable (i.e., dependent on database state) checks during
> "ALTER ROLE/DATABASE SET" to WARNINGs to avoid breakage during restore
>
> makes for a fine TODO, I'd say.

Well, psql currently ignored restore errors too, so I am not sure what
the value of this is, except that pg_upgrade will not error exit, but I
am not sure that is a good idea here either.

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