Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, fazool mein <fazoolmein(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry
Date: 2010-09-07 23:00:48
Message-ID: 201009072300.o87N0nv00478@momjian.us
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Robert Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> >> What I *think* you're saying is that the slave doesn't send per-commit
> >> messages, but instead processes the WAL as it's received and then sends
> >> a heres-where-I-am status message back upstream immediately before going
> >> to sleep waiting for the next chunk. ?That's fine as far as the protocol
> >> goes, but I'm not convinced that it really does all that much in terms
> >> of improving performance. ?You still have the problem that the master
> >> has to fsync its WAL before it can send it to the slave. ?Also, the
> >> slave won't know whether it ought to fsync its own WAL before replying.
> >
> > Yes, apart from last sentence. Please wait for the code.
>
> So, we're going around and around in circles here because you're
> repeatedly refusing to explain how the slave will know WHEN to send
> acknowledgments back to the master without knowing which sync rep
> level is in use. It seems to be perfectly evident to everyone else
> here that there are only two ways for this to work: either the value
> is configured on the standby, or there's a registration system on the
> master and the master tells the standby its wishes. Instead of asking
> the entire community to wait for an unspecified period of time for you
> to write code that will handle this in an unspecified way, how about
> answering the question? We've wasted far too much time arguing about
> this already.

Ideally I would like the sync method to be set on each slave, and have
some method for the master to query the sync mode of all the slaves, e.g.
appname.

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