Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Itagaki Takahiro <itagaki(dot)takahiro(at)oss(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security
Date: 2009-12-05 05:14:02
Message-ID: 200912050514.nB55E2B10554@momjian.us
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Robert Haas wrote:
> Actually, we tried that already, in a previous iteration of this
> discussion. Someone actually materialized and commented on a few
> things. The problem, as I remember it, was that they didn't know much
> about PostgreSQL, so we didn't get very far with it. Unfortunately, I
> can't find the relevant email thread at the moment.
>
> In fact, we've tried about everything with these patches. Tom
> reviewed them, Bruce reviewed them, Peter reviewed them, I reviewed
> them, Stephen Frost reviewed them, Heikki took at least a brief look
> at them, and I think there were a few other people, too. The first
> person who I can recall being relatively happy with any version of
> this patch was Stephen Frost, commenting on the access control
> framework that we suggested KaiGai try to separate from the main body
> of the patch to break it into more managable chunks. That patch was
> summarily rejected by Tom for what I believe were valid reasons. In
> other words, in 18 months of trying we've yet to see something that is
> close to being committable. Contrast that with Hot Standby, which
> Heikki made a real shot at committing during the first CommitFest to
> which it was submitted.
>
> I think David Fetter summarized it pretty well here - the rest of the
> thread is worth reading, too.
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-07/msg01159.php
>
> I think the only chance of this ever getting committed is if a
> committer volunteers to take ownership of it, similar to what Heikki
> has done for Hot Standby and Streaming Replication. Right now, we
> don't have any volunteers, and even if Tom or Heikki were interested,
> I suspect it would occupy their entire attention for several
> CommitFests just as HS and SR have done for Heikki. I suspect the
> amount of work for SE-PostgreSQL might even be larger than for HS. If
> we DON'T have a committer who is willing to own this, then I don't
> think there's a choice other than giving up.

I offered to review it. I was going to mostly review the parts that
impacted our existing code, and I wasn't going to be able to do a
thorough job of the SE-Linux-specific files.

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