Re: pg_migrator issue with contrib

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Brad Nicholson <bnichols(at)ca(dot)afilias(dot)info>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: pg_migrator issue with contrib
Date: 2009-06-08 15:18:40
Message-ID: 200906081518.n58FIed05377@momjian.us
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Dimitri Fontaine wrote:
> >> I don't think that anything in that line is going to be helpful.
> >> What it will lead to is people mindlessly using --force (cf our
> >> bad experiences with -i for pg_dump). If you can't give a *useful*
> >> ie trustworthy warning/error, issuing a useless one is not a good
> >> substitute.
> >
> > Well, in that case, error out would be a better option than doing it and
> > probably fail later. And have a --force option available, but don't
> > suggest it.
>
> My vote would go to detect and error out without recovering option. If
> the tool is not able to handle a situation and knows it, I don't see
> what would be good about it leting the user lose data on purpose.
>
> The --force option should be for the user to manually drop his columns
> and indexes (etc) and try pg_migrator again, which will stop listing
> faulty objects but care about the now compatible cluster.
>
> Restoring the lost data is not the job of pg_migrator, of course.

Agreed. Right now pg_migrator never modifies the old cluster except for
renaming pg_control (documented) so the old cluster is not accidentally
restarted. I don't want to change that behavior.

I would filter the dump --schema file, but again, it is best to let the
administrator do it, and if they can't, they should just do
dump/restore.

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