Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, pgsql-patches(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6
Date: 2008-05-15 01:43:56
Message-ID: 200805150143.m4F1huM11345@momjian.us
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Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > I know we decided not to do that, but I am trying to figure out what the
> > goal if 'help' is? To display the most frequently-used help commands?
> > Aren't they at the top of \?.
>
> The purpose of 'help' is to provide useful help. If it only says "see \?"
> then it's just redirecting you somewhere else, which isn't useful.
>
> I don't think the various help commands need to be completely
> orthogonal. If you agree with that, then making 'help' repeat part of
> what \? says is acceptable. (Of course, the idea is not just to repeat,
> but also to provide useful advice to the unwary.)

OK.

> Remember, the people who is going to type 'help' is not the 10-year-Pg-
> experience types. It's the newbies.

The larger issue is whether we want to advertise only "help" in the
startup banner. The patch has just:

Type: help for help.

Now, aside from being confusing (we need quotes around "help"), I
thought we should only mention \?.

My question is whether we agreed that suggesting "help" as the best way
to get help was what we agreed upon? If we did, I forgot. I thought
the 'help' ideas was just for people who forgot the help commands.

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