Re: Problem with recent PostgreSQL relatedpressrelease

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Denis Lussier <denis(dot)lussier(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy List <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Chris Bell <chris(dot)bell(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Derek Rodner <derek(dot)rodner(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Problem with recent PostgreSQL relatedpressrelease
Date: 2007-07-13 22:02:54
Message-ID: 200707132202.l6DM2sR23560@momjian.us
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Denis Lussier wrote:
>
> Not sure how/why this got a little nasty. EDB amd CMDP are friends
> and competitors, but, we are both good PG companies. EDB will NOT
> write another press release like the one that just came out.
> Additionally, EDB will clarify on our website that an expertly compiled
> and tuned PG 8.2 database will run at the same speed as an expertly
> tuned EDB 8.2 Database.

Well, that is good news. Seems this was a worthwhile discussion because
it had the desired outcome.

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>
> --Luss
>
> -----Original Message----- From: pgsql-advocacy-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> on behalf of Dave Page Sent: Fri 7/13/2007 4:53 PM To: Joshua D. Drake
> Cc: Bruce Momjian; Simon Riggs; PostgreSQL Advocacy List Subject: Re:
> [pgsql-advocacy] Problem with recent PostgreSQL relatedpressrelease
>
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > Dave Page wrote:
> >> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >>> If you write a application for EDB, take EDB out and plug in postgres,
> >>> will that APP run?
> >
> >> So I think the only real difference is in the enhancements we offer in
> >> our respective proprietary versions - you offer an integrated
> >> replication solution, we offer Oracle compatibility.
> >>
> >
> > EDB has made it very clear that EDB is not PostgreSQL but that it is
> > "based" on postgresql and that EDB is "better" than PostgreSQL.
> >
> > CMD on the other hand is very clear that our only closed source product
> > *is* PostgreSQL but it has replication integrated.
> >
> > Mammoth PostgreSQL + Replication, is 100% pure PostgreSQL with
> > integrated replication.
> >
> > In fact one of our other "products" which is PostgreSQL Core, clearly
> > states that:
> >
> > PostgreSQL Core is the distribution developed and distributed by the
> > PostgreSQL.Org community. We are one of the many contributors to this
> > excellent database software. It is 100% enterprise ready and
> > commercially supported.
>
> Which means what exactly? Precisely nothing as far as whether CMD are
> THE PostgreSQL Company or A PostgreSQL Company.
>
> What remains true, is that both our companies offer fine products that
> are derived from Community PostgreSQL, but ARE NOT Community PostgreSQL
> (if you doubt that, md5sum is your friend). We also both offer support
> for our own products, and the community versions.
>
> If you're going to argue that adding a replication engine means you
> remain a "PostgreSQL Company", but us adding Oracle compatibility whilst
> retaining all PostgreSQL features and syntax means we no longer are,
> then with all due respect, you need to cut back on the coffee :-)
>
> Regards, Dave
>
> PS. I spent all day resisting the temptation to jump into this thread,
> but I regret that the urge was too great :-(
>
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