Re: Mail archive indexes are broken, URLs too

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: Mail archive indexes are broken, URLs too
Date: 2006-08-09 19:45:13
Message-ID: 200608091945.k79JjD314853@momjian.us
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Nice, thanks.

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> 'k, rsync is back up ... for a short period, part of the archives will
> disappear, but a large portion of it is re-generated, and figured may as
> well let the 'feed server' start downloading now :)
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> >
> > Just shutdown rsync while I rebuild the archives for the 'old/new' scheme,
> > where old is pre-July 2006 ...
> >
> > will post once its been all rebuilt ...
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Is anyone working on this? Marc? If not, who can make these
> >> modifications to the archive numbering?
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >>> Tom Lane wrote:
> >>>> When Marc fixed the message-boundary pattern and regenerated the
> >>>> archives, many of the existing messages changed URLs because they
> >>>> got assigned slightly different numbers. I notice that the archive
> >>>> search engine hasn't yet tracked this change --- if you do a search
> >>>> and click on a link to a message, you'll arrive at a message close
> >>>> to the one you want but probably not quite it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regenerating the archive indexes is presumably not hard, but there's
> >>>> a bigger problem: for awhile now many of us have been in the habit
> >>>> of citing old discussions by archive URLs. All those links are now
> >>>> broken too, and I can't think of any easy way to fix them. And then
> >>>> there's Google etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> I wonder if it'd be better to revert the regeneration of the archives,
> >>>> and only apply the new message-boundary pattern to future messages.
> >>>
> >>> Agreed. There have been no changes since we discussed this.
> >>>
> >>> The best proposal was to renumber the newly-found items to the end of
> >>> the numeric range for the pre-July 2006 archives, and to properly number
> >>> July 2006 and later archives. And this date range has to be enbedded in
> >>> the archive script so if it is ever run again, this behavior continues
> >>> to happen.
> >>>
> >>> The longer we take to fix this, the more likely that people are creating
> >>> URL's that refer to the existing pre-July 2006 numbering which should
> >>> change. It needs to be fixed quickly.
> >>>
> >>> And we can't just leave it alone because old archive emails have URLs
> >>> that point to now-incorrect numbers, and there is no good way to fix
> >>> that everywhere are emails are archived.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bruce Momjian bruce(at)momjian(dot)us
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> >>>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >
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