Re: Vote needed: revert beta2 changes or not?

From: mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Vote needed: revert beta2 changes or not?
Date: 2005-10-07 13:46:45
Message-ID: 20051007134645.GA20929@mark.mielke.cc
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Not that I want this to become a flame war - but because two separate
people challenged my opinion, and I only wish to clarify what it is... :-)

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:32:12PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:57:33PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc wrote:
> > >I don't get a vote - but I do want to suggest, as a user, that I get
> > >generally annoyed with the presence of interfaces with names that
> > >were chosen for historical reasons, but are maintained only for
> > >compatibility, and either never did, or no longer apply.
> > >I'd rather you left it fixed. Returning it to the old name, for the
> > >sake of process, and no other good reason, doesn't appeal to me.
> It's not just for the sake of process. It's because the pgAdmin guys,
> who were the ones which invented the API and the users of it, are
> already using it with this interface. Changing it means they take the
> compatibility hit. However, I question how hard the compatibility hit
> is -- for the return type, isn't it a matter of testing two possible
> values instead of one? The naming case is harder, but how much?

If it is to be changed in the future, say, 8.2, I don't believe this
point has merit. If, however, it would not be changed in the future,
say, 8.2, you are correct.

> > >It is
> > >a lesson learned. We move on. Enforce the process next time. Self
> > >inflicted punishment is somewhat masochistic. :-)
> > If we don't enforce the process this time, why would we enforce it next
> > time?
> Because we will know better.

Yes. And because the people involved are not children. They are mature
adults. :-)

Cheers,
mark

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