Re: Sort and index

From: "Jim C(dot) Nasby" <decibel(at)decibel(dot)org>
To: Manfred Koizar <mkoi-pg(at)aon(dot)at>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Dave Held <dave(dot)held(at)arrayservicesgrp(dot)com>, pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Sort and index
Date: 2005-05-14 13:37:22
Message-ID: 20050514133722.GO49630@decibel.org
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-performance

On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 08:54:48PM +0200, Manfred Koizar wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2005 16:15:16 -0500, "Jim C. Nasby" <decibel(at)decibel(dot)org>
> wrote:
> >> This is divided by the number of index columns, so the index correlation
> >> is estimated to be 0.219.
> >
> >That seems like a pretty bad assumption to make.
>
> Any assumption we make without looking at entire index tuples has to be
> bad. A new GUC variable secondary_correlation introduced by my patch at
> least gives you a chance to manually control the effects of additional
> index columns.

It seems it would be much better to gather statistics on any
multi-column indexes, but I know that's probably beyond what's
reasonable for your patch.

Also, my data (http://stats.distributed.net/~decibel) indicates that
max_io isn't high enough. Look specifically at timing2.log compared to
timing.log. Thouggh, it is possibile that this is because of having
random_page_cost set to 1.1 (if I set it much higher I can't force the
index scan because the index estimate actually exceeds the cost of the
seqscan with the disable cost added in).

> >It depends on the patches, since this is a production machine. Currently
> >it's running 7.4.*mumble*,
>
> The patch referenced in
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2003-08/msg00931.php is
> still available. It doesn't touch too many places and should be easy to
> review. I'm using it and its predecessors in production for more than
> two years. Let me know, if the 74b1 version does not apply cleanly to
> your source tree.

Looks reasonable; I'll give it a shot on 8.0 once I have replication
happening.
--
Jim C. Nasby, Database Consultant decibel(at)decibel(dot)org
Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828

Windows: "Where do you want to go today?"
Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?"
FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?"

In response to

Browse pgsql-performance by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Joel Fradkin 2005-05-14 18:19:20 Re: ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system again)
Previous Message PFC 2005-05-14 13:00:47 Re: Partitioning / Clustering