Re: Problem with PITR recovery

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Rob Butler <crodster2k(at)yahoo(dot)com>, Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>, Jeff Davis <jdavis-pgsql(at)empires(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Problem with PITR recovery
Date: 2005-04-20 22:19:50
Message-ID: 200504202219.j3KMJoF23133@candle.pha.pa.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> However, this still begs the question of why we are bothering.
> >> I disagree with the goal in this particular case anyhow: I do not
> >> think it's necessary, safe, nor sane for a shutdown to try to archive
> >> the last XLOG segment. Even if we fixed the xlog mechanism to end the
> >> file there, I really have a problem with the idea that the archiver
> >> should try to start a fresh archiving cycle at shutdown.
>
> > Doing the archive at server shutdown eliminates one of the "must
> > document" items, so the system behaves more predictably that it does
> > not. It is not required --- it is a usability issue.
>
> No, it just replaces a documentation issue with a reliability issue.
> We'd have to consider what to say about the prospect that the archiver
> is unable to archive that last segment, is kill -9'd by init at some
> critical point in the process, etc etc. I think it's just a bad idea
> to promise people that shutting down the postmaster will have any such
> effect.

OK, makes sense. Could we give them a command to archive it before they
shut down? That would make sense.

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