Re: Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

From: Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>
To: "Gary L(dot) Burnore" <gburnore(at)databasix(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Upcoming Changes to News Server ...
Date: 2004-11-24 09:52:26
Message-ID: 20041124095222.GA31095@svana.org
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:07:04PM -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> We've removed all of the comp.databases.postgres.* groups from our server
> and our feeds anyway. Do did google. So will anyone else who's still
> holding the bogus groups.
>
> Basically, the thing that Marc is doing that's 'bad', is unilaterally
> making changes that effect your list without any discussion with those who
> it effects either ON the list or in USENet. USENet people tried to help
> and got a "we don't see it as broken from our side so who cares?" attitude.

I thought initially too that the discussion was "we have some bogus
groups here, lets just formalise them and all will be well". However,
the groups are being given no repreive, they're being dropped all over
the place, now. So from a purly practical point of view the right way
to go is to remove all the bogus groups and create them elsewhere.
After all, people still want to read them on usenet.

Even after the CFV goes through, the remaining dozen groups will still
be bogus and still need a place to live. Hence pgsql.*

This all perfectly logical reasoning, I honestly can't understand why
this is "bad". It's the only way by my understanding. As someone who
left usenet five years ago, all I can see are social problems not
technical ones.

As for the list, it's been around for more than six years and will keep
going, with or without usenet.

Good day,
--
Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org> http://svana.org/kleptog/
> Patent. n. Genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. A patent is a
> tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone
> else to do the other 95% so you can sue them.

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