Re: Call for 7.5 feature completion

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Call for 7.5 feature completion
Date: 2004-04-30 03:43:07
Message-ID: 200404300343.i3U3h7Q17161@candle.pha.pa.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
> > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> In the first place it's unfair to other developers to make schedule
> >> slips at the last moment, and especially to *plan* to do so.
>
> > Isn't it equally unfair to slip the scheduale that developers that have
> > been working on some large features (PITR, 2PC immediately coming to mind)
> > have been working towards based on a deadline? If Win32 that much more
> > important then those other features?
>
> As you well know, I have no use for the Win32 port at all ;-). However,
> of the "major features" that Bruce just listed, the Win32 port is the
> only one I consider really likely to appear in 7.5; sure it needs major
> work yet, but the others are still in the vaporware-till-proven-otherwise
> category. Certainly they are not solid enough to justify making
> schedule decisions on the basis of "this will probably be ready by date X".
>
> I am willing to adjust the freeze deadline now to make it more probable
> that at least one of those major features will really make it into 7.5.
> The realities are that the Win32 port should determine any such schedule
> decision, because nothing else is close enough to the finish line to
> justify considering its needs instead.
>
> I guess my point is really "do you want to freeze on June 1 if *none*
> of these features are done?"

Yep, my point too, that we need X big features to schedule beta, and we
don't have any yet.

I believe PITR actually does work as Simon has tested it, and we have
the code. Of course, i am discussing how it should be integrated, but I
do believe it works. And I think Gavin will complete his tablespaces,
perhaps with our help.

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