Re: Need some help getting started

From: Jason Tishler <jason(at)tishler(dot)net>
To: Dan <topdowndan(at)yahoo(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-cygwin(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Need some help getting started
Date: 2003-10-29 16:33:37
Message-ID: 20031029163336.GB3644@tishler.net
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Dan,

On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 10:36:49AM -0800, Dan wrote:
> --- Jason Tishler <jason(at)tishler(dot)net> wrote:
> > Please keep you replies on-list.
>
> Since you're the one who's maintaining the README, I sent my question
> to you alone. Otherwise, if I was wrong about the editrights thing,
> there would be confusing/bogus info in the mail archive. That's
> important to me as a newbie. I should have mentioned that in the last
> message.

Understood. Nevertheless, the proper place to discuss these matters is
the appropriate mailing list. Unfortunately, individuals do not scale
-- mailing list do.

> I think you probably didn't get my other email with the revised README
> attachment.

I just checked my spam folder (and inbox). I did not receive the above
email.

> This would have made more sense in that context.

Agreed.

> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:40:47PM -0800, Dan wrote:
> > > One more thing.. I don't know if "editrights" was installed when I
> > > downloaded and installed ntrights. If so, there should be a step
> > > to download ntrights.
> >
> > My README is already too "cluttered." IMO, adding this obvious step
> > will only make it more so.
>
> I respectfully disagree.

The purpose of my README is to describe the differences between a Cygwin
and Unix PostgreSQL setup. The goal was not to provide exhaustive
Cygwin and PostgreSQL documentation. This documentation can be found
elsewhere.

> I am very grateful for your help and maintenance of the guide,

You are welcome.

> but it took me three days to get this thing to work.

Sorry, but it appears that XP Home adds to the complexity of setting up
Cygwin PostgreSQL. AFAICT, installation on other Windows versions is
easier.

> Excluding what's "obvious" isn't the way to attract new users.
> [snip]
> I'm just offering my feedback as a user.

I appreciate your feedback. However, the harsh reality is that I only
have very limited spare time and many interests. Hence, rewriting a
README is very low on my priority list. FWIW, others have reported to
me that they found my README easy to follow and useful.

> Did you get my revised README?

No.

> I sent it as an attachment in a separate email. I'd like you to review
> and post it if you like it, or correct it if you don't. Again, to keep
> the mail archives free from inconsistent information, I sent it only
> to you.

I would prefer a patch (i.e., diff) instead. It is much easier to
quickly see your changes.

> So that there's only one source of instructions, I'd rather not just
> post it in a message here, but I will if you prefer.

I think you know my preferences, but I will leave it up to you.

> I wonder why these instructions are not just part of the postgresql
> docs. They're really nice and that's the first place everyone looks.

Why not contribute the above to the PostgreSQL docs?

Jason

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