Re: Two weeks to feature freeze

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Dann Corbit <DCorbit(at)connx(dot)com>
Cc: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>, "scott(dot)marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)ihs(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jason Earl <jason(dot)earl(at)simplot(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Two weeks to feature freeze
Date: 2003-06-25 01:28:50
Message-ID: 200306250128.h5P1SoL04590@candle.pha.pa.us
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I think it was a useful discussion. I find it interesting to compare
our clearly ad-hock testing methods to traditional commercial testing
strategies. I think our results are very good, but it does look awful
"ad-hock" and it is easy to see how someone would question its
effectiveness.

Of course, the whole open source development model seems ad-hock too,
and on the surface seems inferior to a commercial software development
model, but there again, the proof is in the result.

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Dann Corbit wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:10 PM
> > To: Dann Corbit
> > Cc: The Hermit Hacker; Jan Wieck; scott.marlowe; Bruce
> > Momjian; Tom Lane; Jason Earl; PostgreSQL-development
> > Subject: RE: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote:
> >
> > > I did something about it. I raised the issue.
> > > Is it really so that whoever it is that raises a question
> > is also the
> > > one who must fix the issue raised? A strange model indeed.
> >
> > Its worked for us ...
> >
> > Wait, I know what should make you happy ... it won't get
> > anytihng done, but ...
> >
> > Bruce, can you add "* Improve Testing" to the TODO list
>
> It is surely a titanic mistake to bring up any issue on this list if you
> do not plan to fix it yourself.
>
> > > > Someone has to spearhead it
> > > > ... you seem to be passionate about seeing it happen, but
> > don't care
> > > > enough to do anything about it ...
> > >
> > > Don't care and won't do are not the same thing.
> >
> > Well, actually, they are ... if someone doesn't care, they
> > aren't going to do, are they?
>
> You have had the time to do everything you ever cared about?
>
> It is really true that I have made a titanic waste of time in an effort
> to get someone else to do something about it or at least get them
> interested in it. I won't waste my time in that way again. I deeply
> rue the time I have wasted already.
>
>

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