Re: [HACKERS] SAP and MySQL ... [and Benchmark]

I assume we don't want to mimick FreeBSD's infighting.

I don't have any problem with doing voting, but I will say that the
stated PostgreSQL core leadership goal, "to do as little as possible",
has served us well.

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Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> I suggest anyone who's interested in how to organize an open source
> project take a look at FreeBSD. It's the best run project I know of,
> especially considering there's basically no corporate sponsorship.
>
> In a nutshell, there's a community of a few hundred developers who have
> commit access. Each year, they elect an executive board that oversees
> the project as a whole. This does a great job of ensuring that no single
> person can bully the project around, and it results it code that's much
> better thought out, imho.
>
> Hopefully someday pgsql will have enough developers to warrant such a
> model. :)
>
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 11:22:08PM +0100, Ian Linwood wrote:
> > Hello Jan,
> >
> > Friday, June 6, 2003, 9:12:24 PM, you wrote:
> >
> > > I think Open Source means more than that. It means especially Open for
> > > ideas, open for input. Open for people and companies to join the team,
> > > contribute and take part in the decision making. That all is totally
> > > impossible in the MySQL project. Not because it could not be done, but
> > > because the owner of the commercial product MySQL does not want it to
> > > happen.
> >
> > Although this is an entirely valid opinion. I don't 100% agree with
> > this point of view.
> >
> > Just because a project is open source (OS), doesn't mean that all and
> > sundry should have an input.
> >
> > OS projects should be open to offers of contribution, but projects should
> > reserve the right to reject that contribution.
> >
> > This seems, IMO, to be a plague in OS development. I clique of
> > developers (regardless of how talented) or an individual, completely
> > wrecks a project because they want to ensure their ideas are adopted.
> >
> > OS projects and closed source projects (or any other project for
> > this matter) needs clear leadership, with someone willing to say yes
> > or NO.
> >
> > Open source development is littered with shouting matches leading to
> > forks, and general fcuk ups. This sometimes works for the better,
> > unfortunately, most times it doesn't.
> >
> > I'm painting a pretty black picture and possibly giving you the opinion
> > that I do not approve of OS development...nothing could be further from
> > the truth. But I do think we need to get away from the *revisionism*
> > ((c)Mao Tse-tung) that you seem to have fallen into.
> >
> > Please do not take offence at any comment I make - none are intended.
> > Things are starting to get interesting... ;-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Ian
> >
> >
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