Re: [GENERAL] CURRENT_TIMESTAMP

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com
Cc: Manfred Koizar <mkoi-pg(at)aon(dot)at>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Aaron Held <aaron(at)MetroNY(dot)com>, Roberto Mello <rmello(at)cc(dot)usu(dot)edu>, Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>, pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] CURRENT_TIMESTAMP
Date: 2002-09-23 20:41:44
Message-ID: 200209232041.g8NKfix19001@candle.pha.pa.us
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> I, for one, would judge that the start time of the statement is "during the
> execution"; it would only NOT be "during the execution" if it was a value
> *before* the start time of the statement. It's a semantic argument.
>
> The spec is, IMHO, rather vague on how this would relate to transactions. I
> do not find it at all inconsitent that Bruce, Thomas, and co. interpreted a
> transaction to be an extension of an individual SQL statement for this
> purpose (at least, that's what I guess they did).
>
> Thus, if you accept the postulates that:
> 1) "During" a SQL statement includes the start time of the statement, and
> 2) A Transaction is the equivalent of a single SQL statement for many
> purposes,
> Then the current behavior is a logical conclusion.
>
> Further, we could not change that behaviour without breaking many people's
> applications.

I don't see how we can defend returning the start of the transaction as
the current_timestamp. In a multi-statement transaction, that doesn't
seem very current to me. I know there are some advantages to returning
the same value for all queries in a transaction, but is that value worth
returning such stale time information?

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