Re: Companies involved in development

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: hs(at)cybertec(dot)at
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Companies involved in development
Date: 2002-08-15 15:41:10
Message-ID: 200208151541.g7FFfAA28940@candle.pha.pa.us
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I will add something about the BSD license to the advocacy web page I am
trying to put together. My list is:

P O S T G R E S Q L
A D V O C A C Y

Current at ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/advocacy.

Quotations
Company users
Beef up developers list, add companies
success stories
update developers map
BSD license

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Hans-Jrgen Schnig wrote:
> I think it would be a huge benefit for the community to have some more
> company-funding. This would lead to the implementation of some features
> people need urgently (replication in the core and so forth). On the
> other hand a better product makes even more developers work for
> PostgreSQL. We were thinking of funding the project as well and seems to
> be a good way of improving the product we make our living of. We have
> also tried to get some government funding we could invest into
> PostgreSQL but unfornately all we could get was EUR 10k which is some
> kind of ridiculous. We should have invested much more but it is just not
> possible at this point so we dropped the idea.
> For a company PostgreSQL definitely is an interesting area to invest
> because it has proven to be a good product and there are just minor
> things (sync. replication - eg. Postgres-R) missing to make it a real
> enterprise database. The support of the community of more than just
> optimal and it is an interesting subject.
> Talking about practical experience: Our customers love PostgreSQL. The
> only thing they miss is 24x7 availability due to a lack of hot-failover
> and replication. A way to tweak the optimizer better (some have SQL
> statements being 2 pages long).
> We have done quite a lot of Oracle up to now but in many respects
> PostgreSQL seems to be the better product but in the case of
> availability we fail. The database never crashes but it is just to hard
> to make a cluster out of it - we have to do it on an application level
> and too many people worry about conistency if one node fails.
>
> Also: It would be interesting to have a special section on the website
> where people can post that they need money to implement something really
> useful. I guess there'd be a lot of people who'd pay for replication or
> things like that if they knew more.
> By the way; many people seem to think that PostgreSQL is GPL license. I
> know it is easy to find out what it means and that it is now that way
> but we should explain what BSD license REALLY means in just a few words.
> This may sound ridiculous but people just don't look for information.
>
> All in all I think that there are ways to find people contributing
> financially to the project.
>
> Regards,
> Hans-J?rgen Sch?nig
>
>
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> >I think we are going to see more company-funded developers working on
> >PostgreSQL. There are a handful now, but I can see lots more coming.
> >I am going to work on getting those funding companies more visibility.
> >We originally were concerned that such involvement may harm the
> >development process, but history has shown that it has only been a huge
> >benefit for the community.
> >
> >
>
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