Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updated

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, The Hermit Hacker <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updated
Date: 2000-01-13 15:57:33
Message-ID: 200001131557.KAA29869@candle.pha.pa.us
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> After thinking about it a little more, I wonder if I was too optimistic
> to say that an initdb script could transfer the password securely.
> Consider: we can get the password with
>
> echo "Please enter password for postgres superuser: "
> read PASSWORD
>
> and now the password is in a shell variable of the shell running initdb,
> and hasn't been exposed anywhere else. So far so good, but now what?
> You can't securely do
>
> echo $PASSWORD | backend
>
> or
> echo $PASSWORD > allegedly-secure-temp-file

This is secure. echo is a shell builtin, and does not invoke a separate
process with arguments.

> (Actually, you'd want it to do a few more pushups: turn off tty
> echoing before prompting for password, read password twice and
> check it was entered the same both times, retry if not, etc.
> Another reason that a pure shell script isn't really up to the
> job is that AFAIR it can't easily turn off tty echoing.)

That is the part that is hard to do in a shell, except I think there are
stty settings for this.

I just did:

stty -echo
read PASS
stty echo
echo $PASS

and it worked perfectly:

#$ /bjm/x
<- typed test here
test

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