Re: Scripts (was Re: [HACKERS] Re: [INTERFACES] Next release is 7.0(?))

> I think Thomas' primary problem was the underscore. (?)

OK.

>
> I was going to say that I can take of that, since I was going to adjust
> the scripts to play well with the new psql anyway. (In particular, I just
> terminally removed the -a option, since it has gone unused for a while and
> might be a very popular option switch in the future. Switches are becoming
> scarce these days.)
>
> I can offer the following plan (from my bin dir):
>
> cleardbdir --> (Remove. It's been a while.)

Good.

> createdb --> pgcreatedb

Good.

> createlang --> (In my excessively undereducated opinion, this should
> be removed. createdb and createuser I can see but
> this?)

Yes, remove. What is that doing there. Jan's plpgsql doesn't use it. :-)

> createuser --> pgcreateuser
> destroydb --> pgdestroydb

Can I recommend pgdropdb?

> destroylang --> (see above)
> destroyuser --> pgdestroyuser

pgdropuser?

> ecpg
> initdb --> pginitdb
> initlocation --> pginitlocation
> ipcclean --> pg_ipcclean
> (An underscore here to make it more complicated to type :)
> . . .

Not sure about that.

> vacuumdb --> pgvacuumdb

OK.

> Alternatively, there could also be shorter commands, now that the
> association with the PostgreSQL installation is clearer:
> pgcrdb
> pgcruser
> pgdestdb
> pgdestuser
> pgvacuum

Too cryptic for me.

> This might remove the mnemonic association with the related SQL commands
> (which some might find desirable). Some might also go for a set like this:
> pguseradd
> pguserdel
> pgmkdb
> pgrmdb
> in association to *nix commands. (Some might find that a bad idea).

Doesn't grab me.

>
> Furthermore I was thinking about a configure switch along the following
> lines:
>
> --enable-scripts=old|new|both|none
> (defaults to new)

Too complicated. Issue a warning if invoked with old args and remove
old link in 8.x. You can test basename $0 and test to see how you were
invoked.

> since a while back there was some talk about removing the scripts
> altogether (which also died after Thomas protested, I think).

I like the scripts too.

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