Re: [HACKERS] Re: order by and index path

From: Bruce Momjian <maillist(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: andreas(dot)zeugswetter(at)telecom(dot)at (Andreas Zeugswetter)
Cc: jwieck(at)debis(dot)com, hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Re: order by and index path
Date: 1998-10-15 16:01:13
Message-ID: 199810151601.MAA15134@candle.pha.pa.us
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> Jan wrote:
> > If there is an ORDER BY clause, using an index scan is the
> > clever way if the indexqual dramatically reduces the the
> > amount of data selected and sorted. I think this is the
> > normal case
>
> yes
>
> > (who really selects nearly all rows from a 5M row
> > table?).
>
> Data Warehouse apps
>
> > This will hurt if someone really selects most of the rows and the index
> > scan jumps over the disc.
>
> I think this is a non issue, since if a qual is not restrictive enough,
> the optimizer should choose a seq scan anyway. Doesn' t it do this already ?

Yes it does.

>
> > But here the programmer should use
> > an unqualified query to perform a seqscan and do the
> > qualification in the frontend application.
>
> I would reformulate this to:
> Here the backend should do a seq scan and use the qualification to eliminate
> not wanted rows.
>
> Resumee:
> You have to look at this from the cost point of view. If there is an order by that can be
> done with an index, this will make the index a little more preferrable than for the same
> query without the order by, but it should not force the index.
> You have to give the sort a cost, so that the index access can be compared to the
> seq scan and sort path.

This cost is compared. The optimizer uses the min-max values for the
column stored in pg_statistic to see how much of the table is being
requested, and decides on an index or not.

Doing the restriction on the fontend sounds kind of cheesy to me.

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