Re: [HACKERS] Re: PHPBuilder article -- Postgres vs MySQL

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: markw <markw(at)mohawksoft(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew McMillan <Andrew(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Re: PHPBuilder article -- Postgres vs MySQL
Date: 2000-11-15 19:15:59
Message-ID: 14092.974315759@sss.pgh.pa.us
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markw <markw(at)mohawksoft(dot)com> writes:
> Just a question, however, what is the feeling about the way statistics are
> currently being calculated?

They suck, no question about it ;-)

> My feeling is that some sort of windowing
> algorithm be used to normalize the statistics to the majority of the entries
> in a table. It could be as simple as discarding the upper and lower 10% of
> the record stats, and use the remaining 80% for statistics.

I think what most of the discussion has focused on is building
histograms. The current upper-and-lower-bounds-only approach just
plain isn't enough data, even if you discard outliers so that the
data isn't actively misleading.

As far as the most-common-value issue goes, if you have one value that
is vastly more common than any other, I think it would be a real mistake
to throw away that information --- that would mean the planner would do
the wrong thing for queries that do involve that value. What we need
is to save info about several top-frequency values, maybe three or so,
not just one. Also the finding of those values needs to be much more
robust than it is currently.

See past discussions in pghackers --- there have been plenty...

regards, tom lane

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