Re: tie user processes to postmaster was:(Re: [HACKERS] scheduler in core)

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, David Christensen <david(at)endpoint(dot)com>, Jaime Casanova <jcasanov(at)systemguards(dot)com(dot)ec>, Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: tie user processes to postmaster was:(Re: [HACKERS] scheduler in core)
Date: 2010-02-23 14:53:54
Message-ID: 1266936834.3752.3973.camel@ebony
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On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 00:02 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> writes:
> > Regarding hooks or events, I think postmaster should be kept simple:
> > launch at start, reset at crash recovery, kill at stop. Salt and pepper
> > allowed but that's about it -- more complex ingredients are out of the
> > question due to added code to postmaster, which we want to be as robust
> > as possible and thus not able to cook much of anything else.
>
> This is exactly why I think the whole proposal is a nonstarter. It is
> necessarily pushing more complexity into the postmaster, which means
> an overall reduction in system reliability. There are some things
> I'm willing to accept extra postmaster complexity for, but I say again
> that not one single one of the arguments made in this thread are
> convincing reasons to take that risk.

Nobody wants to weigh down and sink the postmaster.

What is wanted is a means to integrate parts of a solution that are
already intimately tied to Postgres. Non-integration makes the whole
Postgres-based solution less reliable and harder to operate. Postgres
should not assume that it is the only aspect of the server: in almost
all other DBMS features are built into the database: session pools,
trigger-based replication, scheduling, etc..

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Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com

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