Re: default values

From: Felipe Schnack <felipes(at)ritterdosreis(dot)br>
To: pgsql-jdbc <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: default values
Date: 2002-11-20 11:17:39
Message-ID: 1037791059.8876.186.camel@desenv1.ritterdosreis.br
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That's the idea I suggested a week ago...

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 23:17, Dave Cramer wrote:
> Well, the only way this is going to work is if you cast it into a
> postgres resultset.
>
> I don't have any particular objection to this extension.
>
> Dave
> On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 18:44, Stuart Robinson wrote:
> > I think Felipe has a point here. I don't see any good reason why the driver's
> > methods can't be a SUPERSET of those specified in the JDBC standard. As long
> > as there's nothing forcing you to use the non-standard methods, it should be
> > fine. So, for those who wish to stick to the standard for portability, there
> > is predictable behavior; and for those who want some of the extra goodies
> > provided by Postgres, there are options.
> >
> > -Stuart
> >
> > Quoting Felipe Schnack <felipes(at)ritterdosreis(dot)br>:
> >
> > > So why setUseServerSidePrepare() was implemented? This is not potable,
> > > not standard, not anything.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 22:48, Barry Lind wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Felipe Schnack wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 2- This feature is avaliable in pgsql. Why not implement it?
> > > > >
> > > > Since default column capability isn't part of the jdbc standard yet (but
> > > > since it is part of the SQL standard, I would expect it to be added
> > > > someday to the jdbc spec), adding support for it would require the user
> > > > to write non-portable jdbc code. Since there is a portable way to
> > > > accomplish the same thing (i.e. not include the column in the insert), I
> > > > don't see a compelling reason to add this functionality.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > --Barry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 17:16, Stuart Robinson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Hi, Felipe.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I'm been trying to follow the discussion about default values and I'm a
> > > little
> > > > >>confused. I think David's reply is sensible. Unless I'm missing
> > > something, I
> > > > >>don't think there's an issue for inserts. All you have to do is not
> > > specify the
> > > > >>default column in the insert and it will automatically get the default
> > > value. I
> > > > >>think the issue only arises when you do updates, if you want to revert to
> > > the
> > > > >>default for a column that has been changed since it was originally
> > > inserted.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ate mais,
> > > > >>Stuart
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Quoting David Wall <David(dot)Wall(at)Yozons(dot)com>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>Why not simply remove varcharfield2 from the INSERT statement and let
> > > the
> > > > >>>database insert that value with the default value? Isn't the purpose of
> > > a
> > > > >>>default value to have the DB put that value in when none is specified?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>--
> > > > >>Stuart Robinson <stuart(at)zapata(dot)org>
> > > > >>
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