From: | Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su> |
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To: | Magnus Hagander <mha(at)sollentuna(dot)net> |
Cc: | Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>, "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "Gavin M(dot) Roy" <gmr(at)ehpg(dot)net>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: pgfoundry moved ... |
Date: | 2005-04-29 21:55:55 |
Message-ID: | Pine.GSO.4.62.0504300153280.4489@ra.sai.msu.su |
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ok, guys. we really talked about different things :)
The main web site is indeed fully static, so such slowdown usually
inidcates limiting resources (sockets, open files, ...).
Oleg
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> Um. You really aren't up to speed on how things are, are you? ;-) We
>>> *do* use static frontends. Five of them actually, globally
>> distributed.
>>> This is not where the performance problem is.
>>
>> I see that your static frontend has PHP compiled and other stuff.
>>
>> curl -I http://pgfoundry.org/
>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:04:14 GMT
>> Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_auth_pgsql/0.9.12 PHP/4.3.11
>> X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.11
>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
>
> I was talking about www.postgresql.org, not pgfoundry.org. I realise the
> subject still says pgfoundry, but the discussion was more along the
> performance of www.postgresql.org at this stage..
>
>
>> it's silly. All that stuff eat resources. Even old pentium would
>> serve a lot of *static* pages without problem, you don't need
>> "globally distributed"
>> frontends.
>
> As long as it's not used, it hardly makes a difference. Anyway, we need
> the distribution mainly for redundancy, not performance.
>
>
>>> Except the backend is slow *anyway* - even with just the
>>> regen-for-frontend stuff loading it down. It doesn't show up
>> for the end
>>> user, but it does make the site rebuild slower, whjich means
>> it has to
>>> run less frequently (once/hour for the most often updated stuff, less
>>> often for docs and ftp tree).
>>
>> Hmm, not very nice. I don't think pgfoundry is very busy site.
>> Is there some web stat available ? How many pages generated
>> dynamically ?
>> Could you run simple ab benchmark ? Technology I described is
>> simple, commonly
>> adopted and proven in rather busy sites (millions visitors per day).
>> Anyway, I just tried to help. Probably, you know more information why
>> services are so slow and has clever idea how to improve situation.
>
> Again, we're discussing differen things.
> As for pgfoundry, yes, it seems to put a very high load on the systems,
> but I can't talk abuot any details there, since I don't know them. I'm
> sure there are many different ways to solve those issues.
>
> //Magnus
>
Regards,
Oleg
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