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Re: [sysadmins] List moderation - need a break!

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Greg Smith <gsmith(at)gregsmith(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, sysadmins <sysadmins(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [sysadmins] List moderation - need a break!
Date: 2009-06-23 10:31:26
Message-ID: DE4ED391-987F-400D-8198-966AE0E16703@hagander.net (view raw or flat)
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On 23 jun 2009, at 12.14, "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
>> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Dave Page wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Ultimately it seems the failure to fix this problem is just  
>>>>> because
>>>>> Marc is the only one able to do it, and he's not around enough.
>>>>
>>>> No, the real problem is having our mail infrastructure tied into
>>>> hub.org as a number of us have said before.
>>>
>>> Now that I have those two new servers in place, if someone wants to
>>> setup spamassassin on that VPS itself to run instead of going  
>>> through
>>> the global spamassassin daemon, I'm cool with that ... I haven't  
>>> moved
>>> mail over to the new servers yet, but that just takes 15-20  
>>> minutes of
>>> downtime to make happen ... could do that tomorrow evening ...
>>
>> Just to be absolutely clear on what you're saying here.
>>
>> Are you saying that you are now OK with de-coupling the  
>> postgresql.org
>> mail from hub.org making it a community managed service?
>>
>> Or are you saying that you're ok with running a *second* instance of
>> spamassassin, and still keep mail going through hub.org relays?
>
> I'm okay with a dedicated instance of spamassassin running in mail.postgresql.org 
>  so that it can be more tailored / configured to mark spam going  
> through to the moderators ...

So you're still not accepting that the mail services are a community  
service and resource.  Ok, sorry to hear that, but good to know.

In that case, the the statement by Dave still stands - this does not  
fix the actual issue. It does paint over one crack a bit, but it does  
nothing to fix the structural problem.

/Magnus


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