From: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> |
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To: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
Cc: | pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Proposal to shutdown pgFoundry |
Date: | 2011-05-23 18:00:49 |
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 13:44, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
> Greg,
>
>> I'm curious what you feel the problems are with Google Groups in
>> particular; I've had my own issues with Yahoo so agreed that's sketchy.
>
> Inability to manage a closed mailing list, for one thing. That is, any
> member of the Google group can decide to change the mailing list to
> "open". Also the fact that *every* member of the group gets the
> moderation messages, is annoying as all-get out. And several people in
> our community (Magnus, for example) have reported being completely
> unable to receive messages from google groups. There are other issues
> as well; basically Google groups makes Majordomo look user-friendly.
Acutally, just to make it clear, I can receive google groups fine. I
can usually not *post* to them, though. (Nor can I unsubscribe once
I've subscribed). But not always - it sometimes works.
Oh, and another point - there's even less chance of debugging any kind
of issue you have with google groups, than anything else we have now.
> I wish it didn't suck so badly, or it would be a nice solution for the
> non-critical/ephemeral mailing lists task. If someone knows a
> third-party list manager site which doesn't suck, please speak up.
+1, I could use that in other cases as well.
> However, as discussed at the pub, I can personally find other solutions
> such as running my own mailman instance somewhere. Whether that's a
> better solution for the community, I don't know. Magnus and I should
> also step through each list individually that I'm talking about; there
> may be less than I believe which isn't in the categories of "permanent
> list" or "personal project".
Hmm. I said that? I thought that was someone else - but I can +1 that too :-)
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Magnus Hagander
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