Re: Replication references

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Replication references
Date: 2011-06-26 17:50:10
Message-ID: BANLkTikQifQSzWdoyDeJSxRZ+N8Q_U-wJw@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 19:10, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 11:41 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 00:07, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:10 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 18:03, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 23:45, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> >> >>> On 20 June 2011 21:40, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Hi!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I know we've  had some discussions around what to do with the Slony
>> >> >>>> support.. But it's there now, and IIRC the deal was we keep it.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> That was the deal. FWIW, I consider our Slony support to be less than
>> >> >>> useless, in that it is basically a GUI analogue to writing a long
>> >> >>> Slonik script full of apparently redundant entries.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I would, however, suggest that we rename it to actually be "slony
>> >> >>>> replication" rather than "replication". Or "Use slony" rather than
>> >> >>>> "Use replication". Calling it "replication" without qualifying it
>> >> >>>> causes confusion to many users (came across it with a client just
>> >> >>>> today, and it's not the first time).
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I realize we're fairly close to release - is this doable for 1.14, or
>> >> >>>> will that fsck things up for translators?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> +1
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It isn't that hard to translate a few strings into all supported
>> >> >>> languages. If a translator isn't available to translate those few
>> >> >>> strings (and they'd have to not be answering any e-mail for that to be
>> >> >>> the case, and it will take them less than 5 minutes), that's likely to
>> >> >>> be in a language that isn't so widely spoken  - it certainly won't be
>> >> >>> French or German. I'd be willing to live with a poor machine
>> >> >>> translation for a little while for those languages. If someone
>> >> >>> complains, the complaint is likely to be all we need to fix the
>> >> >>> problem ourselves.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, something like this. I went with calling the field inthe dialogs
>> >> >> "Use Slony" rather than "Use Slony replication", simply because the
>> >> >> second option is very long - much much longer than anything else
>> >> >> there, leading to a lot of wasted space.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Comments?
>> >> >
>> >> > It should be "Slony Replication" for the menu and the collection
>> >> > factory name, not "Slony replication". Otherwise it seems OK.
>> >>
>> >> Agreed. Actually I thought I had fixed that already :D
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > I would like to hear from Guillaume before breaking the translations though.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, I was planning to wait for his comment before committing anything.
>> >>
>> >
>> > No problem with me. We have no updates to the translation yet, so that's
>> > not an issue.
>>
>> Ok, applied.
>>
>
> I thought this one would go also in 1.14 branch. Any reason why I don't
> see it there? forgot a push, Magnus? :)

I wasn't planning to - do we really want to change the name of a node
in a minor release?

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