From:
Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To:
Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc:
Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, fazool mein <fazoolmein(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject:
Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry
Date:
2010-09-02 14:17:29
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On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 08:59 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> > "All standbys" has no meaning without registration. It is not a question
>> > that needs an answer.
>>
>> Tell that to the DBA. I bet s/he knows what "all standbys" means.
>> The fact that the system doesn't know something doesn't make it
>> unimportant.
>
>> I agree that we don't absolutely need standby registration for some
>> really basic version of synchronous replication. But I think we'd be
>> better off biting the bullet and adding it. I think that without it
>> we're going to resort to a series of increasingly grotty and
>> user-unfriendly hacks to make this work.
>
> I'm personally quite happy to have server registration.
OK, thanks for clarifying.
> My interest is in ensuring we have master-controlled robustness, which
> is so far being ignored because "we need simple". Refrring to above, we
> are clearly quite willing to go beyond the most basic implementation, so
> there's no further argument to exclude it for that reason.
>
> The implementation of master-controlled robustness is no more difficult
> than the alternative.
But I'm not sure I quite follow this part. I don't think I know what
you mean by "master-controlled robustness".
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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