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Re: damage control mode

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>
Subject: Re: damage control mode
Date: 2010-01-10 10:29:03
Message-ID: 9837222c1001100229t74f6c9d4wb3c69cdd2f869298@mail.gmail.com (view raw or flat)
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:38, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net> writes:
>> ... I don't see much sense in worrying about it now; the 2 weeks between end
>> of CF and Beta are when we need to be cut-throat. Given that this time the
>> "must-have" feature is already in the tree, I think you will find people coming
>> around quickly to the side of pushing things out rather than fighting to get
>> things in.
>
> I think the other Robert's main point is that getting to beta in only
> two weeks is ridiculously optimistic (which I'm afraid I agree with).
> I believe that what he's proposing is tossing enough stuff overboard
> so that we can finish the January CF in much less than a month, and
> thereby have more time for alpha-level testing and stabilization of
> the tree.

I realize it's moving the goalposts and not necessraily fair, but we
could always try to cut a week off the CF for some more stabilization
period if we think that'll be enough to make a difference.

> Now the other approach we could take is that we'll ship *something*
> on 7 Mar, even if it's less stable than what we've traditionally
> considered to be beta quality.  I don't think that really helps
> much though; it just means we need more time in beta.

That sounds mor elike a final alpha release, in that case?


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